Obama – Where were you born?

October 4, 2008
By 18 comments

The Obama campaign and the DNC have filed a joint motion to dismiss a lawsuit filed by Pennsylvania Democrat, Phil Berg claiming that Obama is not a US citizen. According to World Net Daily Berg has stated that if Obama produces a valid birth certificate he will gladly drop the suit.

The web site Obama Crimes has up to the minute information on the status of the lawsuit. In this press release Berg states that Obama and the Democrats are purposely slowing the legal process so this will remain unresolved until after the election, which according to Berg, would result in a Constitutional crisis.

In July Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs reported on the findings of a technical forensic expert’s examination of the photo of the birth certificate published by the Daily Kos which they allegedly obtained from the Hawaii Department of Health in 2007. The expert concluded that the Obama certificate is a “horrible forgery”. The detailed report contains many images and outlines the specific techniques he used to reach his conclusions. Also notable, but not surprising, is that he was threatened by left-wing psychopaths.

The big question is why Barack Obama won’t simply produce a certified copy of his birth certificate?  Wouldn’t that be much simpler than fighting a lawsuit?

The following articles provide more information on this story:

Document forensics expert: Obama “birth certificate” a “horrible forgery”

Phil Berg Files Motion Re Obama Birth Certificate 

Illinois Petition for Investigation of Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate

Factcheck.org Credibility in Question

Certificate of Live Birth Analysis Part One

Claim: Obama’s “Birth Certificate” forged with sister Maya’s original

Update 10/9/08: Earlier I went to check on the status of the Phil Berg lawsuit and when I clicked on the Obama Crimes website there was a message that the site crashed.

Update 10/15/08: Obama Crimes is back up, new format.

Update 10/25/08: Phil Berg’s lawsuit has been dismissed. The judge said Berg didn’t have standing to bring the law suit. This is ridiculous. World Net Daily is reporting that Berg told Michael Savage that he has a recording of Obama’s paternal grandmother in Kenya stating she was there in the maternity ward in Kenya when Barack Obama was born. He is waiting for an affidavit and said he will then release the tape. Berg believes the reason Obama won’t release his college records is due to the fact that he received foreign student aid, and that not only is Obama not a natural born citizen, that he is an illegal alien.

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18 Responses to Obama – Where were you born?

  1. BA on October 4, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    There are one or more details on his birth certificate – or on other documents – that don’t match one or several stories of his. This is normally the reason why a person does not want to give you access to this kind of document. It’s fairly difficult to plead privacy on this one.

    There is also the problem that Obama is linked to, and responsible for, what is probably a forged document, and this might have some serious legal consequences.

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  2. Maggie Thornton on October 4, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    The original suit included the FEC. None of the latest reports on the Berg case mention the FEC.

    Can you imagine the MSM if this were McCain?

    It’s simple, really. The Constitution says the President must be a natural born citizen. I’m sure we’ve never had a candidate before unwilling to provide proof. Wouldn’t we know it would be the mysterious Obama.

    It’s a gigantic thumb of the nose to the American people.

    Maggie
    Maggie’s Notebook

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  3. Lonely Conservative on October 4, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    There was a petition to the FEC that I wrote about over the summer, I’ll have to look into the status of that.

    What would happen is Obama’s elected and then we find out he’s not a natural born citizen? Would the whole ticket be deemed a fraud?

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  4. BA on October 4, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    To try to answer your question:

    If Obama does not meet the eligibility criteria, and he knew about it, this might constitute fraud.

    The political answer is probably that the Republicans know the answer. If it goes for Obama, they will do nothing obviously. If it goes against Obama, McCain will warn Obama, give him a chance to save face, and raise it, if he feels that the election is getting lost. That’s the way McCain works. Don’t forget that McCain did raise his eligibility problem and got it sorted politically, if not legally.

    Legal experts – from this country, UK, Kenya and Indonesia – and some expensive legwork are required. Republicans don’t leak information on important matters.

    Lonely conservative: the technical answer to your question is: it might constitute fraud, if the intent to mislead is proven. If it’s the case, which somehow I doubt it is, Obama could try the insanity defense. It might work.

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  5. Lonely Conservative on October 4, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Thanks for the input.

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  6. [...] Why is the DNC helping him keep it hidden? Why won’t the MSM report on this story? Obama-Where were you born? Share and [...]

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  7. jay1949 on October 4, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    In a manger. In Bethlehem. Right?

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  8. Lonely Conservative on October 4, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    You betcha!

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  9. Endy on October 4, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    You guys are bigots. For your information, Obama was born in Hawai and it’s properly documented. It is “Bomb!Bomb!Bomb Iran” McCain that is born outside of the USA. And that is a fact. Go hide your faces under your beds, bigots.

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  10. Bob Vanderet on October 4, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    What utter silliness! No wonder you guys have just tanked in the polls. The American people are worried about a tanking economy, an endless and pointless war that has killed and maimed thousands of our finest young men and women and squandered $500 billion of our tax dollars, a deteriorating global environment, the lack of health care reform, and you are blathering on about this silliness. Thank God it will end on November 4 and an Obama administration can get us back to economic vitality and international leadership and respect!

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  11. Bob Vanderet on October 5, 2008 at 12:02 am

    By the way, folks, if you go to http://www.factcheck.org, you will not only see the certified birth certificate from the State of Hawaii, but the birth announcement published in Hawaii at the time in the local newspaper.

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  12. afuel on October 5, 2008 at 12:16 am

    You would think that as a proud US citizen running for the highest office in the land he would have put this to bed a long time ago.

    I know I’m stating the obvious here but legally or not this should be a basic game over for Obama. On moral grounds alone. NO clean birth certificate, your out.

    No amount of distraction Team Obama attack squad should be able to cover this up but they will try..

    I haven’t heard any verbal denials from Obama or team on this subject, has anyone else?

    No Obama not now not ever..

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  13. Mike on October 5, 2008 at 12:31 am

    Endy – check the constitution; you do not need to be born in the USA to be able to run for President, you just have to be a citizen by right of birth. This is often confused simply because, unlike many countries, the US recognizes you as a citizen simply if you’re born in the USA (regardless of your parent’s nation origins & citizenship).

    McCain was born in Panama to US parents and is therefore perfectly eligible.

    Obama’s problem is that *if* he was born in Kenya, his father’s Kenyan citizenship trumps his mother’s US citizenship, since Kenya would regard him as a Kenyan citizen. US law doesn’t recognize dual citizenship*, and as he’d have Kenyan citizenship, he would have had to renounce his Kenyan citizenship once he turned 18. Of course that would mean he wouldn’t be eligible for nomination.

    * This doesn’t mean you can’t have dual citizenship, if the other country does recognize dual citizenship. But as far as the USA is concerned, you’re either an American, or you aren’t. No middle ground.

    It would seem to me that this is easily cleared up simply by producing the COLB. (Incidentally, you’d have thought this step was required by the political parties, but it appears not. Maybe it should become a required step?)

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  14. East Coast Gal on October 5, 2008 at 8:21 am

    Even if O’s birth certificate is found to be genuine, the real issue is whether O gave up his citizenship when his mother moved to Indonesia, married an Indonesian citizen and had that Indonesian step-father ADOPT Obama. According to Indonesian law at the time, O would not have been able to maintain dual citizenship with the U.S. There is no evidence that he took action to regain his U.S. citizenship upon returning to Hawaii. Therefore, the additional 2 documents being requested in the lawsuit are, I think, what O is really hiding from and desperately trying to suppress.

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  15. BA on October 5, 2008 at 9:52 am

    East Coast Gal:

    What you wrote does make sense.

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  16. With Obama, where do you start? on October 12, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    [...] are questions of his citizenship that have not been properly addressed. The media remains [...]

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  17. Jon Carlson on March 27, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Obama Birth Announcement Forged
    http://home.att.net/~south.tower/ForgedObama1.htm

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  18. Jon Carlson on January 24, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Why haven’t the Hawaii newspapers confirmed the alleged Obama birth announcements?

    MSM stars claim the birth announcements in two papers prove Obama was born in Hawaii. If the Hawaii papers don’t confirm them they are forged meaning ABSOLUTELY no proof that Obama is a US citizen.

    Obama Birth Announcement Forged
    http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/ObamaBirthAnnouncementForged1.htm

    Further, Obama’s poor spoken English proves he is foreigner.
    Even further, Obama’s lack of Negroid features proves he is an Asian.

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