Justice Clarence Thomas has placed a discussion of Barack Obama’s citizenship on the December 5th docket for conference, meaning a discussion of the merit of this particular case.
A commenter at America’s Right, who has been the leading source of excellent information on the various lawsuits, is requesting that we write directly to the Supreme Court:
The Honorable Associate Justice
Clarence Thomas
United States Supreme Court
One First St. N. E.
Washington DC 20543Put docket # on Envelope 08-A407
Ask him UPHOLD our Constitution with Full Disclosure as the only Constitutionally viable answer.
One commenter said he/she was sending a copy of his letter to each of the nine Justices. Good idea!
Here are some details just in from WorldNetDaily
The Supreme Court’s website listed the date for the case brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the Secretary of State in New Jersey, over not only Obama’s name on the 2008 election ballot but those of two others, Sen. John McCain and Roger Calero.
The case, unsuccessful at the state level, had been submitted to Justice David Souter, who rejected it. The case then was resubmitted to Justice Clarence Thomas. The next line on the court’s docket says: “DISTRIBUTED for Conference of December 5, 2008.”
Jeff Schreiber at America’s Right has followed this case closely. His post today reports:
As for New Jersey firebrand and attorney Leo Donofrio, his application for an emergency stay was denied by Justice Souter, Donofrio was able to refile and resubmit it to the Justice of his choosing, and properly did so. Today, the docket for his action shows that after being put before Justice Clarence Thomas, the application will be discussed by the Court in a December 5, 2008 conference.
Normally, during their term, the Supreme Court Justices conference on Wednesday (typically, but not always) and review the various petitions and applications before them, deciding which of the many such proceedings should be heard by the Court. I suspect that we could soon see a similar entry on the docket for Berg’s case as well.
Now, this does not mean that the Court has decided to hear either of these matters and, in fact, is fairly typical when it comes to the process. Still, for those hoping to have these cases heard on their merits, for those who feel these issues are more about the United States Constitution than Barack Obama, this is a step in the right direction.
Please visit America’s Right and WorldNetDaily for more.
Cross posted with permission from Maggies Notebook.
If the visionary automakers of the early 20th century had been told that this would happen 100 years later, they never would have believed it.
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THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT WILL DISMISS THIS REQUEST, THIS IS TOTALLY UNSUBTANTIATED, MALICOUS AND A RIDICULOUS REQUEST. THERE IS NO BASIS FOR THIS ISSUE, IT IS NOT FACTUAL AND CANNOT BE PROVEN BY ANYONE OF SOUND MIND AND REASONABLE INTELLIGENCE.
THE LOWER FEDERAL COURTS HAVE ALREADY REVIEWED THIS INFORMATION AND DEEMED IT TO BE GARBAGE, AS SUCH IT WILL NOT MERIT ANY TYPE OF REVIEW OR OPINION BY THE COURT.
THE IDEAS AND GARBAGE PERPETUATED ON THESE INTERNET WEBSITES IS A SOURCE OF CONSTERNATION, EMBARASSMENT AND OUTRAGE. WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUE AFFECTING THE LIVES OF ORDINARY PEOPLE AND TO FIND THE CONENT OF OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF BARACK OBAMA AND ISSUE IS PATHETIC.
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Kelly, you don’t know what you are talking about and you obviously don’t understand the issue concerning “Natural born citizen”.
A little advice: “keep your mouth shut and let everybody think you are dumb. Open it and prove to them you are stupid.”
BTW… the concept that the father determines the child’s citizenship dates back to the “Law of Nations” by Vattel (1758).
Now go hook up that tractor and pull your head out of your ass.
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When the constitution specifically says that only natural born citizens may
qualify for the presidency, it explicitly means that there cannot be any
encumbrances or circumstances, or qualifications AT THE TIME OF BIRTH.
This brings up the universally accepted dogma that American born citizens
may confer US citizenship to their children born in Japan, Germany, or any
other foreign soil. All such children are US citizens. The converse is also
true (unfortunately for Barack Obama). Any German parents born in
Germany automatically will confer German citizenships to their children
born on US soil. This rule has never been questioned. Barack Obama’s
father, at the time of Barack’s birth on US soil conferred UK citizenship
automatically.
This is why no president (until now) has ever had one parent
who was born in a foreign country.
The natural born qualification is (in BHO’s case) is encumbered by the
circumstance of blood relation to a foreign born parent at the time of
his birth. You may not wait until you are 18 years of age in order to
circumvent the conditions which existed at the time of your birth.
Remember, BHO is proud of his heritage and he has stated that he
had a British citizenship at the time of his birth.
Yes, the constitution may be amended, but must we do so
just because we have the first African American PEOTUS ?
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The more you guys talk, the clearer it becomes this is ALL about a Black man winning the presidency of the U.S. After a FBI background check, obtaining TOP security clarance, setting on state and U.S. senates, well connected polictical rivals, several court reviews and private investigations there is no doubt Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen!!! Grasp at any straw you like, this case will fall on its face. Get over the race issue and move on.
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The fact that Obama has NOT provided any paper trail is suspicious! It also is a requirement for POTUS, and he is thumbing his nose at the Constitution, the voters, their donations, but most importantly as a Senator, the rule of law. He has had two years to come up with this requirement, but has not done so! I, as a citizen of this country, who is required to provide proof of residency to vote, provide a driver’s license to drive, a Birth Certificate to enter school, College, or to get married, INSIST that Barack Obama provide the necessary documentation to take the office on January 20th. That’s all I want, nothing more or less than what is required. Not once did I mention RACE, so stop the madness and give the people what we HAVE to have in order for him to serve, not rule!
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BHO has not been given top security clearance by order of Robert Gates. He has been getting daily security briefings but has not been given access to Top Secret until his team has full FBI background checks. This Pentagon memorandum was given to the Obama team about 2 weeks ago; it had almost no media coverage. At this point we still do not know if he has been fully vetted or if he’ll pass. The electoral college is going to make history come December 15th. Just as Obama said when his aunty was discovered living in Boston’s public housing system last month (he claims not to have known she was in the country), “the law must be followed”. She was soon deported. We can only hope Obama applies such candor when it comes to determining his qualifications for president: “the law must be followed.”
Either way we have a lose/lose situation. If the supreme court dismisses the case, millions of Americans will question his legitimacy to govern. And believe me the bizarre right wing in the country will be making BIG trouble. After the hearing on Friday, if SCOTUS does it’s job and brings this to the full court for review or remands it to the Pennsylvania Court of Appeals, rioting will start.
Who do we get to thank for this? How about an egotistical megalomaniac named Barrack Hussein Obama. He and his Hyde Park friends probably had parlour games talking about this possibility.
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The fact that this dispute has been ‘out there’ and ignored for two years. not only by the media, but NOT ONE WORD OR CLARIFICATION by Obama himself is appalling! The fact that he has not come on the boobtube and put the record straight is both incredulous and pompous! The fact that the media has ignored faxes, emails, letters, and phone calls about investigating and reporting this to millions of people in the US is either because they are being controlled by higher ups, or are now running government controlled media!
Either option is NOT AMERICAN-and MUST be stopped before we are all under this anti-American government action. This, my fellow Americans is a bigger problem. News black-outs – the thing of the future? Why hasn’t Obama come up with it, why has he blocked all paperwork, why does Obama think he can get away with it? He’s on the TV every night to introduce his new appointees, where is his explanation about the lawsuits- is he in a bubble? Or is he just arrogant in his thinking that he’s above the law! DECEMBER 5TH, WE HOPE AND PRAY THAT THE RULE OF LAW IN THE CONSTITUTION STILL MATTERS IN THIS COUNTRY!
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The comment below is totally false and wants to try and mislead people over this issue. The lower courts dismissed the case by saying the person bringing the suit didn’t have the right to bring the suit and thats why Alan Keyes case has the best shot. Alan Keyes was on the ballot against Obama and therefore he was “damaged” by Obama being on the ballot (if proven he is not a citizen). So the moron indicating it was dismissed because of no merit is totally wrong, they were dismissed because the person filing didn’t have a right to brin g the suit. Why I will never understand, he should prove that he is eligible under our constitution. If the supreme court doesn’t review this, SO MUCH FOR OUR LAWS OF THE LAND
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I have seen no comment yet on how ludicrous this Constitutional provision is in this day and age, provided, of course, that Obama actually is not a “natural-born” U.S. citizen, which anyone with half a brain shouldn’t give a flying camel about anyway. When made part of the Constitution, there was still an issue of attempts by Great Britain to take back this country, concerns which have long vanquished. This is a provision which should have gone out with the dinosaur and people should be more concerned about the stupidity of it in the modern context than this dumb gamesmanship over Obama’s pedigree. His entire cognizant life has been spent here so what difference would it make which soil he was born on or whether his father was or was not a British citizen at the time of Obama’s birth. To nullify his election on this bogus requirement would be an abomination and invite revolution by the people, who would be justified to revolt. It is that damn stupid.
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Following the constitution is stupid? Ok, let’s just let all the terrorists, Russians, and Chinese run for president. Oh I forgot Iran. We must have someone from Iran run for president so we can be fair and not racist. It doesn’t matter that they want us all dead. It is hillarious that when a valid issue is brought to the forefront, it always brings up the good old race card. Why? Because that’s all you’ve got to work with. You can’t face the fact that the big O’s buddies are terrorists and that he gave one million dollars to support a terrorist. A terrorist got him into school, and supported his campaign. His preacher of 20 years taught sermons damning America, but the big O didn’t hear all that. Is he deaf too?
It’s a valid birth certificate we are asking for, not his first born. It’s a legitimate piece of paper that I had to produce to get a job. So I can run for president without one? Wow. Tell your president elect to show his credentials and this will end. But he just can’t do that now, can he? When I was asked to present my birth certificate, I did. On the same day. But then, I didn’t have anything to hide. That’s the difference.
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STILLWATER — Oklahoma State scratched a seven-year itch in Travis Ford’s second game as head coach. For the first time in seven years, three OSU players scored 20 or more points on the same night. James Anderson scored 28 points, Terrel
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Politico’s Ben Smith reports that the current focus of the Obama – Clinton negotiations over Bill Clinton’s foundation and presidential library is looking forward –not necessarily vetting the past. Still, it’s worth remembering that during
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The Media Research Center’s Brent Bozell, like NRO’s John Derbyshire , is probably someone I should ignore now that it’s finally morning in America, for the rest of us. But Bozell’s latest outburst is useful in pointing up the complete
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Anyone can be a U.S. citizen which is the federal juristiction of the United Stated.
Comprising 10 square miles of D.C. and it’s territiories, like porto rico, america samoa, virgin islands, guam etc. We are looking for a natural burn citizen pushed out on american soil in the 50 sovereign states called the republic. If obama was born in the british colonies or anywhere else from the Sovereign 50 states he would be a naturalized citizen and not eligable to run for president.
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PFC provided a good laugh for me this morning. I hadn’t looked up reaction to my post on this particular forum but judging from the quality of the response and if he is representative of the patronage of this group, no wonder the Lonely Conservative is, in fact, so lonely. His response about terrorists running for President, e.g., has absolutely nothing to do with my argument, which clearly differentiated Obama from such a group, as he has been in this country his entire conscious life.
PFC makes the fatal mistake of assuming the inerrancy of the Constitution, which no rational being can assume. Just ask the blacks and women who had to wait so long to vote. Those Amendments were a very long time in coming. And there aren’t many jobs I know of that require presentation of a birth certificate to get it. I’m a practicing attorney, and I never needed to show my birth certificate for that. I’m a full-fleged citizen all right and naturally born in this country, but I’ve never had to prove it for any employment I’ve gotten, pre-law or otherwise.
If all conservatives think as he does, they will soon be greeted with a much-deserved extinction. PFC, you’re very poor at polemics. Deal with facts that actually contradict someone’s assertions and not assert straw man arguments. Your credibility would be light years higher.
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Mike Pincher and friends are distracting from the basic question here (as an attorney, I would assume Mike understands that unless or until a law is changed, it must be adhered to—or maybe he practices law in Chicago?)–
There is no point in arguing over whether or not he should have to be a natural born citizen; that is what our Constitution requires.
There is no point in arguing whether or not we oppose Obama because he is black: we do not. We oppose him because he is the antithesis of our value system. But the Left must believe it’s all about race in the face of reasoned discourse and questions. Here’s a tidbit: if you’re black and people don’t like you, maybe it’s not because you’re black–maybe you’re just a jerk.
There is no point in following most of the liberal debate on this issue. It’s distracting from the real question:
Why won’t he just produce it? Instead of hiring attorneys and spending more money to defend against the question, instead of enduring all the “right wing extremist conspiracies” (read that: a difference of opinion), why won’t the man just produce the piece of paper and be done with it?
Does Mike not even wonder why? Or, Mike, do you just rail against the rule of law and the Constitution and value systems that are not yours because you resent “rules”?
Mr. Obama should produce his birth certificate, and the United States Supreme Court will be remiss in not addressing this question and demanding that it be done. It’s not about Obama personally per se—-it is a question of whether or not this man is Constitutionally entitled to retain the office he currently holds. I have little joy in the idea of his NOT being entitled–what a mess that would be, and too dangerously open to a President Biden and Vice President Pelosi! But I don’t live in the world as I wish it was, I live in reality. The reality is, because he withholds this document and will not address this question, there is a preponderance of evidence to suggest something is amiss. It is not a “bogus requirement” of the Constitution, and he is absolutely required to prove he is a natural born citizen.
Until he produces this simple document I will not give him the benefit of the doubt. There is no justifiable reason to withhold it. As a “brilliant, Harvard-educated Constitutional scholar” (gag), I would think he gets it. He should also be intelligent enough to understand that since his loyalty is much questioned following his deep and shining-eyed bow to a Saudi king, it would be in his best interest to quash this now.
Maybe he needs to read the instruction to produce it on his teleprompter.
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