The Non-Issue Issue That Won’t Go Away

November 28, 2008
By 10 comments

No main stream reporter is willing to break omerta when it comes to questions about Barack Obama’s citizenship and birth certificate. Even Republicans are sticking to the code of silence. It really makes no sense, surely, if a Republican candidate had such an issue hanging over his head it would be on the 24 hour news cycle.

Does anyone remember hearing about Sarah Palin’s passport, or lack thereof? Where in the Constitution does it say the vice president needs to have a valid passport? Oh that’s right, it doesn’t!

The best summary of the whole birth certificate issue was written by Joe the Farmer (another Joe with the audacity to ask a question.) If you have concerns about Obama’s citizenship, you should read Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue is Legitimate. Simply because Factcheck.org says it’s a non-issue doesn’t make it so. In Hawaii, a person born outside the US can legally have a birth certificate on file with the Department of Health. Without seeing the actual document, it’s impossible to know for sure if he was born in Hawaii.

Which leads to the question, why doesn’t Obama just produce the document? Joe the Farmer can think of three possible explanations.

1. He was not born in Hawaii, and may not be eligible to be President;

2. He was born in Hawaii, but facts that may be derived from his vault copy birth certificate are inconsistent with the life story he has told (and sold);

3. He was born in Hawaii, and his refusal to provide the best evidence that he is a natural born citizen is a means by which to draw criticism of him in order to make him appear to be a “victim.” This would energize his supporters. This would also make other charges about him seem suspect, including his concealment about ties to Bill Ayers and others of some infamy. Such a clever yet distasteful tactic would seem to be a Machiavelli- and Saul-Alinsky-style way to manipulate public opinion. But while this tactic may energize his supporters, it would convince those who believe him to be a manipulator that he’s not only just that, but a real pro at it. This would indeed be the basest reason of all, and would have repercussions about his trustworthiness (both here and abroad), which Americans know, is a characteristic sorely lacking in its leaders.

If only the media would address this issue, Obama might have no choice but to produce his birth certificate. But they won’t, so he won’t.

We’ll have to wait and see what Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has to say on December 5.

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10 Responses to The Non-Issue Issue That Won’t Go Away

  1. Ted on November 28, 2008 at 2:59 am

    Best explanation (following 2 you tube videos) I’ve seen for the total media blackout of what is the single greatest news event and domestic threat — let’s call it OBAMAGATE — since the outbreak of the American Civil War and for the sincere prayers of the American people that the United States Supreme Court — let’s call it OUR LAST HOPE — now to have the courage to save our great nation as we have come to know it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1spPrzvYWRI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8b_usFyLHQ

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  2. Nelvis on December 1, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Mr. Lonely,
    Google “Cloward-Piven strategy”,and make sure that you are sitting down.God save America from this usurper.Open the vault in Hawaii,and release the real birth certificate,before it’s too late.Come on SCOTUSA,do what you took the oath to do.Defend the U.S. constitution.

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  3. Lonely Conservative on December 1, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Thanks, Nelvis. I have covered Cloward Piven and the strategy of manufactured crisis on a few occasions. Unfortunately, not enough Americans have been paying attention.

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  4. Logicism on December 5, 2008 at 1:45 am

    Here’s a reason he might not want it released–because it would be a useless distraction that would satisfy a small lunatic fringe while taking attention away from important matters like, I don’t know, the tanking economy, our two wars, our need for alternative energy sources, etc.

    Besides, this is all based on an ABSENCE of facts, not positive evidence. Why does this make it less legitimate? Well, imagine a liberal doing the following:

    Where’s John McCain’s BC? We haven’t seen it. It might not exist. Why hasn’t he released it? WHAT IS HE HIDING?!

    Where’s George W. Bush’s BC? We haven’t seen it. It might not exist. Why hasn’t he released it? WHAT IS HE HIDING?!

    Where’s every Republican president’s BC for the last 50 years. They might not exist. Why haven’t they release them? WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?!

    You’d call him a ‘Libtard’ ranting about a ‘non-issue.’ And he would be.
    Just like people who are latching onto this issue are exhibiting signs of dementia, and thus may be rightfully labeled lunatics.

    I had fun watchin the truthers make monkeys of themselves. I’m enjoying this too. Never has so much comedy ensued after an election.

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  5. Logicism on December 5, 2008 at 1:52 am

    BTW:

    “Simply because Factcheck.org says it’s a non-issue doesn’t make it so.”

    True, but you forget that the inverse is also correct: Simply because bloggers say this is an issue doesn’t make it so.

    There are still bloggers going on about how 9/11 was an inside job. Doesn’t make it an issue. I could go on-line, doctor a photo, and talk about how George W. Bush was caught in bed with Osama bin Laden, and say on my blog “Just because [insert anyone who disagrees] says it’s a non-issue doesn’t make it so.”

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  6. Lonely Conservative on December 5, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    John McCain did produce his birth certificate. Why won’t Obama?

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  7. Logicism on December 5, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Why won’t George W. Bush?
    Why won’t Mike Huckabee?
    Was Ronald Reagan really a citizen? We should see his BC to check if he was validly president or not. Why haven’t we?
    Why won’t Mitt Romney release his?
    Why won’t Sarah Palin release hers?

    All aspiring for or occupied the presidency–we haven’t seen ANY birth certificates.

    In fact, why stop there? I’m not sure Sarah Palin is a citizen. BC’s can apparently be forged, per the technical specialist with ties to highly conservative groups and no access to the actual document, but SS numbers can be validated. Why doesn’t Sarah Palin release her SS? If she’s aspiring for the highest office she should be vetted.

    ^^^Do you see the lunacy you are propagating yet, or is it still unclear?

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  8. Lonely Conservative on December 5, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    I think anyone aspiring to be President should produce a birth certificate. I had to have one to get married, you’d think the highest office of the land would have a similar requirement.

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  9. Logicism on December 5, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    And yet I hear no clamor for George W. Bush’s birth certificate. I heard no such clamor for his father’s birth certificate. No such uproar occurred during the Reagan years, or Carter’s, or Nixon’s.

    They were “non-issues”. But now, lo and behold, Barack Obama’s birth certificate MUST BE PRODUCED. Why? No one can explain why. No one can explain why he must, and George W. Bush didn’t.

    So don’t say “I think anyone aspiring to be President should produce a birth certificate.” Were you demanding G.W.’s back in 2004? No. Were you demanding Mitt Romney’s, Mike Huckabee’s, Sarah Palin’s birth certificates? No. Were you even thinking about this issue when it was Bush vs. Kerry, or Bush vs. Gore, or Clinton vs. Dole, or any election before this one? No.

    Only so much logic-bending can be done before one’s line of reasoning snaps completely–and the line of reasoning demanding this BC snapped a long, long time ago. But by all means, distract your party from important affairs and focus their attention on this drivel–it only works against your interests, after all.

    Don’t say it’s because people are “suspicious”. Oh, that’s wonderful reasoning. If some lunatic fringe of the Green Party might tomorrow get “suspicious” of Sarah Palin’s, George W. Bush’s and any other aspiring Republican presidential candidate’s citizenship status, should the blogosphere talk about it as much as it talks about this garbage?

    The logic does not add up.

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  10. No Free Lunch on December 23, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    Below are two official emails that dispute the public version of Obama’s Birth and his mother’s marriage to BHO Sr.

    From: pubrec@u.washington.edu [mailto:pubrec@u.washington.edu]
    Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008
    Subject: Re: Stanley “Ann” Dunham 1960 to 1970 class registration

    Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham (BHO II’s mom) was enrolled at the University of Washington for:

    Autumn 1961
    Winter 1962
    Spring 1962

    The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

    Madolyne Lawson
    Office of Public Records
    206-543-9180

    From: Stuart Lau [mailto:stuartl@hawaii.edu]
    Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008
    Subject: Re: Inquiry

    The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:
    Dates of attendance:
    Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
    Spring 1963 – Summer 1966
    Fall 1972 – Fall 1974
    Summer 1976
    Spring 1978
    Fall 1984 – Summer 1992

    Degrees awarded:
    BA – Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
    MA – Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
    PhD – Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)

    Sincerely, Stuart Lau
    ****************************************
    Stuart Lau
    University Registrar
    Office of Admissions and Records
    University of Hawaii at Manoa
    Ph: (808) 956-8010
    ****************************************

    Commentary on University Emails:

    For the BHO II Hawaiian Aug 4 1961 COLB to be accurate the following improbable events needed to occur:

    1 month after starting classes, Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack’s mom, at age 17, got pregnant by the only black African man on the entire chain of Hawaiian islands.
    2 months after getting pregnant, she drops out of college.
    3 months after getting pregnant, she marries BHO Sr.
    10 months after her first day at the U of HI, she delivers BHO II and immediately leaves her parents, her new husband, and her home, to fly alone with a newborn 2800 miles to Seattle to start college at the U of W.
    Stanley Ann Dunham does not return to Hawaii until AFTER BHO Sr left the islands for Harvard.

    This is an implausible series of events made even more nefarious because Obama II in his 2 bio books never mentions his mom left Hawaii when she was married to BHO Sr, nor does he mention she was in Washington State during this time.

    Barack’s sister was born in Indonesia, and has a COLB from Hawaii like Obama II. She is NOT a “Natural Born Citizen” of the USA as required by the Constitution to become president…and Obama probably isn’t either.

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