Comments on: Ronald Reagan’s Warning About Socialized Medicine – Video and complete transcript http://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/ Observations from a conservative in a blue state. With a little help from my friends! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:19:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lonely Conservativehttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-79624 Lonely Conservative Tue, 08 Mar 2011 21:26:59 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-79624 Thanks, Tom! I'm glad you found it. Thanks, Tom! I’m glad you found it.

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]]> By: Tom Stanfillhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-79623 Tom Stanfill Tue, 08 Mar 2011 21:20:54 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-79623 I am so happy that this is available for others to hear. I heard the exerps on Rush's show today and was amazed to find the entire speach on line. I copied the URL and emailed many of my friends, so that they too, can hear what was said 50! years ago that is horrifyingly similar to our current situation. I am so happy that this is available for others to hear. I heard the exerps on Rush’s show today and was amazed to find the entire speach on line. I copied the URL and emailed many of my friends, so that they too, can hear what was said 50! years ago that is horrifyingly similar to our current situation.

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]]> By: Scott Smithhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-21730 Scott Smith Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:33:36 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-21730 About the time this speech was delivered, I was in a heated "discussion" with someone about the Vietnam War. In the ideological vernacular of that era, I asserted that it was better for the Vietnamese people to be "dead than red". And something snapped. It was another 8 hours before my brainwashed intellect could recognize not only how ridiculous, but how insidious, my statement was. I had seriously asserted that all the inhabitants of a nation should die because of my ideology. Fast forward... An intern here at work is otherwise unemployed and has lost his health insurance. His wife became pregnant while he was working. They already have another child. They don't have the money to cover the delivery. What should he do? Here's what he did do. He and his wife went to MediCal and arranged for the State of California to handle the delivery. The baby was delivered by C-section and mother and child are fine. The intern is still looking for full-time work. What's my point? We already have socialized medicine. We've had it for decades. Yes, we've had socialized medicine for as long as we've had advance medicine. Why? Because the United States is a decent society that, despite the heated rhetoric, believes that sometimes people need help. Including for their medical care. What's the problem? We lie about it. We assert that, up to Obama's passed legislation, we DIDN'T have socialized medicine. And that assertion, over time, placed an enormous unfunded mandate because medical costs, over time, have risen sharply per capita for many reasons. As a result of the fact that medicine, for a price, can do so much more, the burden has become onerous for individuals and families. Everyone recognizes that we cannot any longer live the lie. But, how can we pretend to go backwards in time when medical costs were less (because medicine couldn't do as much). This is the problem with the ideology in this thread. Ideology warps the world view to fit with the ideology, just like my youthful assertion that living under communism was worse than death itself. The world is now (and always has been) more complex than any ideology. Look at the theme in this thread: national healthcare under any form will result in TOTAL SOCIALISM! That's ideology, not reality. And heartfelt commitment to the ideology does not alter reality; it just causes suffering that no compassionate person would have intended. About the time this speech was delivered, I was in a heated “discussion” with someone about the Vietnam War. In the ideological vernacular of that era, I asserted that it was better for the Vietnamese people to be “dead than red”. And something snapped. It was another 8 hours before my brainwashed intellect could recognize not only how ridiculous, but how insidious, my statement was. I had seriously asserted that all the inhabitants of a nation should die because of my ideology.

Fast forward…

An intern here at work is otherwise unemployed and has lost his health insurance. His wife became pregnant while he was working. They already have another child. They don’t have the money to cover the delivery. What should he do?

Here’s what he did do. He and his wife went to MediCal and arranged for the State of California to handle the delivery. The baby was delivered by C-section and mother and child are fine. The intern is still looking for full-time work.

What’s my point? We already have socialized medicine. We’ve had it for decades. Yes, we’ve had socialized medicine for as long as we’ve had advance medicine. Why? Because the United States is a decent society that, despite the heated rhetoric, believes that sometimes people need help. Including for their medical care.

What’s the problem? We lie about it. We assert that, up to Obama’s passed legislation, we DIDN’T have socialized medicine. And that assertion, over time, placed an enormous unfunded mandate because medical costs, over time, have risen sharply per capita for many reasons. As a result of the fact that medicine, for a price, can do so much more, the burden has become onerous for individuals and families. Everyone recognizes that we cannot any longer live the lie.

But, how can we pretend to go backwards in time when medical costs were less (because medicine couldn’t do as much).

This is the problem with the ideology in this thread. Ideology warps the world view to fit with the ideology, just like my youthful assertion that living under communism was worse than death itself. The world is now (and always has been) more complex than any ideology. Look at the theme in this thread: national healthcare under any form will result in TOTAL SOCIALISM! That’s ideology, not reality. And heartfelt commitment to the ideology does not alter reality; it just causes suffering that no compassionate person would have intended.

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]]> By: Week Resadieu « zunguzunguhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-18302 Week Resadieu « zunguzungu Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:46:12 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-18302 [...] by zunguzungu on March 27, 2010 Ronald Reagan trying to stop Medicare in 1961: Now back in 1927 an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for [...] [...] by zunguzungu on March 27, 2010 Ronald Reagan trying to stop Medicare in 1961: Now back in 1927 an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for [...]

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]]> By: Kelly Fhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-18041 Kelly F Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:06:31 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-18041 Do you know where I can purchase a copy of this speech? Do you know where I can purchase a copy of this speech?

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]]> By: Not a Teapartistahttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-18039 Not a Teapartista Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:48:20 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-18039 What baloney. 35 years since Medicare passed. The sky didn't fall. We are not the USSR. Now even rightwingers defend it. Sheesh! What baloney. 35 years since Medicare passed. The sky didn’t fall. We are not the USSR. Now even rightwingers defend it. Sheesh!

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]]> By: Elizabeth Herbst , Proud Patriothttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-17637 Elizabeth Herbst , Proud Patriot Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:21:10 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-17637 Thank you, pass it on to everyone you know. I will be printing this sending it to all. Thank you, pass it on to everyone you know. I will be printing this sending it to all.

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]]> By: Seanhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-17399 Sean Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:51:46 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-17399 Thank goodness I stumbled upon this; I'm showing this to all my friends and family. I don't necessarily consider myself a full Conservative, if anything, I'm a Libertarian. And there's no doubt that our system needs reform, but NOT THIS! The government will be able to control all aspects of our health care system in a mere 4 years now that the bill is passed. I think it's safe to say that the Democrats will take a hard hit come election time. Thank goodness I stumbled upon this; I’m showing this to all my friends and family. I don’t necessarily consider myself a full Conservative, if anything, I’m a Libertarian. And there’s no doubt that our system needs reform, but NOT THIS! The government will be able to control all aspects of our health care system in a mere 4 years now that the bill is passed. I think it’s safe to say that the Democrats will take a hard hit come election time.

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]]> By: Health Care and Freedom « mykeystrokes.comhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-17272 Health Care and Freedom « mykeystrokes.com Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:18:15 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-17272 [...] There is a tendency to think this sort of inane hyperbole an innovation of our polarized age. But it isn’t. When Medicare was being considered, the American Medical Association hired Ronald Reagan to record a record housewives could play for their friends. It was called Operation: Coffee Cup, and you can read the text here. [...] [...] There is a tendency to think this sort of inane hyperbole an innovation of our polarized age. But it isn’t. When Medicare was being considered, the American Medical Association hired Ronald Reagan to record a record housewives could play for their friends. It was called Operation: Coffee Cup, and you can read the text here. [...]

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]]> By: Another Billboard Pops Up in Minnesota - But it's not Bush | The Lonely Conservativehttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-16786 Another Billboard Pops Up in Minnesota - But it's not Bush | The Lonely Conservative Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:57:08 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-16786 [...] can be found here. AKPC_IDS += "17718,";Popularity: unranked [?]Possibly Related PostsAugust 15, 2009 -- Ronald [...] [...] can be found here. AKPC_IDS += "17718,";Popularity: unranked [?]Possibly Related PostsAugust 15, 2009 — Ronald [...]

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]]> By: Brad Wellinghttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-12987 Brad Welling Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:25:46 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-12987 Thanks, you may be lonely, you are not alone.......... Thanks, you may be lonely, you are not alone……….

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]]> By: Houston Area Liberty Campaign » Blog Archive » Reagan: We can’t say we haven’t been warnedhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-11315 Houston Area Liberty Campaign » Blog Archive » Reagan: We can’t say we haven’t been warned Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:20:12 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-11315 [...] the actual audio of Reagan himself.  Or, for the full audio and transcript of the speech, see what The Lonely Conservative had to say about it.  I did read a good portion of The Lonely Conservative’s transcript but [...] [...] the actual audio of Reagan himself.  Or, for the full audio and transcript of the speech, see what The Lonely Conservative had to say about it.  I did read a good portion of The Lonely Conservative’s transcript but [...]

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]]> By: Lonely Conservativehttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-11015 Lonely Conservative Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:37:45 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-11015 Oh great! Thanks :) Oh great! Thanks :)

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]]> By: Lisa Sinclairhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/08/ronald-reagans-warning-about-socialized-medicine-video-and-complete-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-11010 Lisa Sinclair Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:08:29 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9124#comment-11010 OK - got it! It's working now. OK – got it! It’s working now.

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