Comments on: Dilemma: What’s a mom to do? Creepy President to deliver speech to all public school children! – Updated http://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/ Observations from a conservative in a blue state. With a little help from my friends! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:27:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lonely Conservativehttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11564 Lonely Conservative Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:39:30 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11564 In case you didn't notice, this post was done before the speech was released, as were most of the comments. I have since posted a link to the speech itself. In case you didn’t notice, this post was done before the speech was released, as were most of the comments. I have since posted a link to the speech itself.

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]]> By: teacherMomhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11563 teacherMom Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:15:23 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11563 Did all of you read the speech? It's right here on the internet. Please read it - the whole text- before claiming to know the content. As a Christian, a mom, and a teacher, I think that a speech that encourages studying hard and staying in school is a good thing, whether said by Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, and so on. There are no hidden messages or political doctrines in this speech. I looked. Also, no one has to write a letter to the President. Why is it that when Bush (sr.) asked the students to write him a letter after his speech, telling him how they could help him with educational goals, it wasn't a problem? Just so you know, I also read that the part about the letter has been changed in the classroom activities handout. Please, read something before condemning it! Did all of you read the speech? It’s right here on the internet. Please read it – the whole text- before claiming to know the content.

As a Christian, a mom, and a teacher, I think that a speech that encourages studying hard and staying in school is a good thing, whether said by Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, and so on. There are no hidden messages or political doctrines in this speech. I looked. Also, no one has to write a letter to the President. Why is it that when Bush (sr.) asked the students to write him a letter after his speech, telling him how they could help him with educational goals, it wasn’t a problem? Just so you know, I also read that the part about the letter has been changed in the classroom activities handout.

Please, read something before condemning it!

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]]> By: Lonely Conservativehttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11560 Lonely Conservative Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:00:40 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11560 Thanks, Daneen. Yes, the trolls don't like me very much, do they? Must mean I'm doing something right! Thanks, Daneen. Yes, the trolls don’t like me very much, do they? Must mean I’m doing something right!

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]]> By: LIBERTY 5-3000http://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11555 LIBERTY 5-3000 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:14:44 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11555 Roy, "But don’t trust in any side fully. Make up your own mind." I don't. That's just the point: this president wants me to abandon all critical thinking and trust that he is going to take care of me out of some sense of benevolence and social justice. My considered opinion is that it is neither: it's about power, it's about making me go to the government for permission for just about every decision in my life. News flash: I do not fear life and I do not ask--nor will I permit--ANYONE to make life safer and happier for me. That is MY life. That is MY decision. That is my course on which to fail, if I choose. If he wants to go save the world, go save those people who fear so much. But leave the rest of us alone. His desire for so much power, so fast and so vast, should concern anyone who values individual rights. No bomb thrown about Bush is going to change what Obama is and what he wants to accomplish. I don't think anyone here is asking you to like or trust Bush---we've moved on to Obama now, and there are legitimate concerns about where he's taking us. In light of this "lesson plan" and the various school plays, etc., WORSHIPING the man I am MORE concerned than ever. That does not belong in a public school, for either side. I find that loathsome. Let's say for a moment (although I do not believe it, but in the name of civil discourse...) that Bush & the Patriot Act was really some intrusive abuse of power and civil rights---is Obama not, then, magnifying that a hundred fold at warp speed and most people seem not to care? What is the difference? A cult of personality? No. I reject everything this man is trying to do, because I have long educated myself on what I believe and WHY. It's too bad we can't meet for coffee and debate for hours; a comment box is really inadequate to cover years' worth of building an epistemology. But I appreciate that you're not throwing bombs and fleeing (like Michael, who is tossing out liberal talking points like "unwinnable war" without qualifying that opinion at all). LC, Obama and his communist comrades (oh, nobody deny Van Jones!) has been great for your blog--it's rockin' these days. Libs seem not able to resist you... I'm going to create a personality cult around you any minute. ;) Roy, “But don’t trust in any side fully. Make up your own mind.”

I don’t. That’s just the point: this president wants me to abandon all critical thinking and trust that he is going to take care of me out of some sense of benevolence and social justice. My considered opinion is that it is neither: it’s about power, it’s about making me go to the government for permission for just about every decision in my life. News flash: I do not fear life and I do not ask–nor will I permit–ANYONE to make life safer and happier for me. That is MY life. That is MY decision. That is my course on which to fail, if I choose. If he wants to go save the world, go save those people who fear so much. But leave the rest of us alone. His desire for so much power, so fast and so vast, should concern anyone who values individual rights. No bomb thrown about Bush is going to change what Obama is and what he wants to accomplish. I don’t think anyone here is asking you to like or trust Bush—we’ve moved on to Obama now, and there are legitimate concerns about where he’s taking us. In light of this “lesson plan” and the various school plays, etc., WORSHIPING the man I am MORE concerned than ever. That does not belong in a public school, for either side. I find that loathsome. Let’s say for a moment (although I do not believe it, but in the name of civil discourse…) that Bush & the Patriot Act was really some intrusive abuse of power and civil rights—is Obama not, then, magnifying that a hundred fold at warp speed and most people seem not to care? What is the difference? A cult of personality? No. I reject everything this man is trying to do, because I have long educated myself on what I believe and WHY.

It’s too bad we can’t meet for coffee and debate for hours; a comment box is really inadequate to cover years’ worth of building an epistemology. But I appreciate that you’re not throwing bombs and fleeing (like Michael, who is tossing out liberal talking points like “unwinnable war” without qualifying that opinion at all).

LC, Obama and his communist comrades (oh, nobody deny Van Jones!) has been great for your blog–it’s rockin’ these days. Libs seem not able to resist you… I’m going to create a personality cult around you any minute. ;)

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]]> By: Davidhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11549 David Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:45:43 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11549 As far as history and the polls are concernedwith feeding the poor and helping the needy, conservatives give far more from their own pockets, while liberals give far more from others' pockets... As far as history and the polls are concernedwith feeding the poor and helping the needy, conservatives give far more from their own pockets, while liberals give far more from others’ pockets…

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]]> By: DChttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11523 DC Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:36:07 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11523 Also Michael, Loretta doesn't sound like she is the "hateful" person, that would be you. She just sounds scared, like the rest of us, with the direction that Obama is taking this country. Also Michael,

Loretta doesn’t sound like she is the “hateful” person, that would be you.

She just sounds scared, like the rest of us, with the direction that Obama is taking this country.

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]]> By: DChttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11522 DC Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:33:49 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11522 Wow Michael, from Loretta's e-mail, your take away was that she doesn't want to help anyone, that she is only talking about white christians. You are missing the point of this whole blog. Maybe you should go back and read this from the beginning. Maybe you should be reading Matthew 7 yourself and learn tolerance of others. Just a thought....... Wow Michael, from Loretta’s e-mail, your take away was that she doesn’t want to help anyone, that she is only talking about white christians.

You are missing the point of this whole blog. Maybe you should go back and read this from the beginning.

Maybe you should be reading Matthew 7 yourself and learn tolerance of others.

Just a thought…….

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]]> By: Michaelhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11507 Michael Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:50:43 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11507 Loretta, You are everything that is wrong with this country. Nothing but ignorance and anger. You had no problem when Bush lied to your face about WMD, when he stripped away some of the freedoms that millions of Americans died to obtain and when he took us into wars that are unwinaable so he and his friends could make millions of dollars. No, you hate Obama because he wants to feed people, give them preventative healthcare, rebuild roads that the last 5 presidents have let slide into ruin. I wish I could be there when you stand before God on Judgement day and you try to explain why you did not think you had to help the poor and needy. I am sure God will agree that when Jesus taught about loving everyone, he didn't really mean the gays, or the liberals or the socialist wellfare moma's .. he was only talking about some of the White Christians that live near you. Christianity is fragmenting and falling apart because of hateful people like you picking and chosing who is worthy of God. Read Matthew 7 and pray for your soul, for you exhibit nothing of Christ in your life right now. Loretta,

You are everything that is wrong with this country. Nothing but ignorance and anger.

You had no problem when Bush lied to your face about WMD, when he stripped away some of the freedoms that millions of Americans died to obtain and when he took us into wars that are unwinaable so he and his friends could make millions of dollars.

No, you hate Obama because he wants to feed people, give them preventative healthcare, rebuild roads that the last 5 presidents have let slide into ruin.

I wish I could be there when you stand before God on Judgement day and you try to explain why you did not think you had to help the poor and needy.

I am sure God will agree that when Jesus taught about loving everyone, he didn’t really mean the gays, or the liberals or the socialist wellfare moma’s .. he was only talking about some of the White Christians that live near you.

Christianity is fragmenting and falling apart because of hateful people like you picking and chosing who is worthy of God.

Read Matthew 7 and pray for your soul, for you exhibit nothing of Christ in your life right now.

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]]> By: Lorettahttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11502 Loretta Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:47:24 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11502 The other presidents were not tied to the associations of this or were they trying to change our entire country to go against the bible! The other presidents were not tied to the associations of this or were they trying to change our entire country to go against the bible!

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]]> By: Lorettahttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11501 Loretta Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:43:26 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11501 This is nothing but pure vanity! This man has nothing to share about how he got where he is. It was handed to him by his joining with some very powerful liberal/socialist people! Other than success academically, he had no other qualification. People were played and led by someone who is a wolf in sheeps clothing! He could not even head a corporation with his qualifications! This is nothing but pure vanity! This man has nothing to share about how he got where he is. It was handed to him by his joining with some very powerful liberal/socialist people! Other than success academically, he had no other qualification. People were played and led by someone who is a wolf in sheeps clothing! He could not even head a corporation with his qualifications!

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]]> By: Clayhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11500 Clay Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:23:50 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11500 Those of you who are planning on keeping your children out of school on Tuesday are doing them a great disservice. At best, they'll hear the President deliver an inspirational speech. At worst, they'll learn how to disagree without being disagreeable. Thanks to you, they'll get neither. For shame! Those of you who are planning on keeping your children out of school on Tuesday are doing them a great disservice.

At best, they’ll hear the President deliver an inspirational speech. At worst, they’ll learn how to disagree without being disagreeable.

Thanks to you, they’ll get neither. For shame!

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]]> By: KAMhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11497 KAM Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:49:55 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11497 A reasonable approach from our District in Florida: Nothing will be broadcast during school. The speech will be recorded and a link provided on the District website for children and parents to watch at home together, if they so choose. A reasonable approach from our District in Florida: Nothing will be broadcast during school. The speech will be recorded and a link provided on the District website for children and parents to watch at home together, if they so choose.

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]]> By: Adamhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11491 Adam Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:47:15 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11491 jmbluechip...that's because the first sentence is laden with sarcasm. jmbluechip…that’s because the first sentence is laden with sarcasm.

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]]> By: Royhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/09/dilemna-whats-a-mom-to-do-creepy-president-to-deliver-speech-to-all-public-school-children/comment-page-2/#comment-11485 Roy Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:23:54 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=9730#comment-11485 Liberty, I completely agree that there are many things going on right now that are being ignored in the media. It is a fact that mainstream news is owned and operated by corporate interests, and for the most part, tend to have a liberal skew. That is why I do not watch, or at least not take seriously, mainstream news outlets. I gather information from independent news sources and blogs. Both conservative and liberal. It's important to try and get a full view and then make up your own mind. Everyone has an agenda, it's important that we don't align ourselves with one side or the other completely. Sure, lean one way or the other, that's how it goes. But don't trust in any side fully. Make up your own mind. Liberty, I completely agree that there are many things going on right now that are being ignored in the media. It is a fact that mainstream news is owned and operated by corporate interests, and for the most part, tend to have a liberal skew. That is why I do not watch, or at least not take seriously, mainstream news outlets. I gather information from independent news sources and blogs. Both conservative and liberal. It’s important to try and get a full view and then make up your own mind. Everyone has an agenda, it’s important that we don’t align ourselves with one side or the other completely. Sure, lean one way or the other, that’s how it goes. But don’t trust in any side fully. Make up your own mind.

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