Comments on: Obama’s Alinskyite tactics are making some democrats nervous http://lonelyconservative.com/2009/10/obamas-alinskyite-tactics-are-making-some-democrats-nervous/ Observations from a conservative in a blue state. With a little help from my friends! Sat, 26 May 2012 16:59:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Clay Barhamhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/10/obamas-alinskyite-tactics-are-making-some-democrats-nervous/comment-page-1/#comment-12669 Clay Barham Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:44:05 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=11807#comment-12669 The Coming Civil War America is much divided on whether individual or community interests are most important. One side says people's interests are harmonious with their neighbors in community. It’s a simple premise and the base of the American political system, as expressed by the 19th century Democrats (see THE CHANGING FACE OF DEMOCRATS on Amazon books and www.claysamerica.com). Men labor, exchange, learn, band together, act, and react upon one another, and in this way, there can result from their free and intelligent activity, order, harmony, progress, prosperity and all things that are good and better. Just observing the free market and the prosperity of America proves this premise. Communities are made up of men and women, and each in America is a free agent. As free agents, they can choose. Since they can choose, they can be mistaken. Since they can be mistaken, they can suffer. Many make mistakes and suffer; as they start from ignorance, and in their ignorance they see before them an infinite number of unknown roads, all of which, except one, lead to mistakes. Mistakes breed suffering. Suffering falls upon the person who was mistaken and requires personal responsibility. Their actions, coupled with the intelligence that has been given them to see the connection between cause and effect, will bring them back, by their suffering, to a path of truth. Many, on the other side, believe men's interests, left to their own devices, will never combine harmoniously. They believe those interests, allowed to develop freely, lead mankind to injustice, inequality and poverty, simply because of the ugly and sinful nature of men. Therefore, they must oppose that simple premise. They must destroy American society as it is now because it grew from the sinful nature of man. They want to try another way. They believe the interests of community are more important than are the interests of the individual, the long established world governing principle of the few elite ruling the many. We just elected a President and political party that claim this position. Individual freedom advocates do not deny mistakes exist; but recognize their purpose in community. If wrong-thinking is to fulfill its purpose, community must not encroach artificially upon individual responsibility. This is the tendency of most of our governing institutions, like parents and those offering remedies for the mistakes that afflict us. Under the philanthropic pretext of giving us a helping hand, the individual's sense of responsibility fades. The freedom of the individual to make mistakes is not respected. Trying to force all Americans into a system of slavery, where government is the master, may cause a new civil war to erupt. Our tradition, based upon the first premise, has proven better than any system ever devised on this planet. If we look at the rest of the world, where eighty percent are starving and struggling to stay alive, America looks bright and wholesome. Many Americans may prefer to fight than capitulate to Obama and the modern Democrats serving the collective interests. The Coming Civil War
America is much divided on whether individual or community interests are most important. One side says people’s interests are harmonious with their neighbors in community. It’s a simple premise and the base of the American political system, as expressed by the 19th century Democrats (see THE CHANGING FACE OF DEMOCRATS on Amazon books and http://www.claysamerica.com). Men labor, exchange, learn, band together, act, and react upon one another, and in this way, there can result from their free and intelligent activity, order, harmony, progress, prosperity and all things that are good and better. Just observing the free market and the prosperity of America proves this premise.
Communities are made up of men and women, and each in America is a free agent. As free agents, they can choose. Since they can choose, they can be mistaken. Since they can be mistaken, they can suffer. Many make mistakes and suffer; as they start from ignorance, and in their ignorance they see before them an infinite number of unknown roads, all of which, except one, lead to mistakes. Mistakes breed suffering. Suffering falls upon the person who was mistaken and requires personal responsibility. Their actions, coupled with the intelligence that has been given them to see the connection between cause and effect, will bring them back, by their suffering, to a path of truth.
Many, on the other side, believe men’s interests, left to their own devices, will never combine harmoniously. They believe those interests, allowed to develop freely, lead mankind to injustice, inequality and poverty, simply because of the ugly and sinful nature of men. Therefore, they must oppose that simple premise. They must destroy American society as it is now because it grew from the sinful nature of man. They want to try another way. They believe the interests of community are more important than are the interests of the individual, the long established world governing principle of the few elite ruling the many. We just elected a President and political party that claim this position.
Individual freedom advocates do not deny mistakes exist; but recognize their purpose in community. If wrong-thinking is to fulfill its purpose, community must not encroach artificially upon individual responsibility. This is the tendency of most of our governing institutions, like parents and those offering remedies for the mistakes that afflict us. Under the philanthropic pretext of giving us a helping hand, the individual’s sense of responsibility fades. The freedom of the individual to make mistakes is not respected.
Trying to force all Americans into a system of slavery, where government is the master, may cause a new civil war to erupt. Our tradition, based upon the first premise, has proven better than any system ever devised on this planet. If we look at the rest of the world, where eighty percent are starving and struggling to stay alive, America looks bright and wholesome. Many Americans may prefer to fight than capitulate to Obama and the modern Democrats serving the collective interests.

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]]> By: Clay Barhamhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/10/obamas-alinskyite-tactics-are-making-some-democrats-nervous/comment-page-1/#comment-12620 Clay Barham Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:19:43 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=11807#comment-12620 It is too bad the modern Democrats aren't using the 19th century Democrat playbook, from the likes of Jefferson to Cleveland, when the Democrats were better libertarians than today's libertarians, as cited in THE CHANGING FACE OF DEMOCRATS on Amazon and www.claysamerica.com. 20th century Democrats have adopted Rousseau to Marx and expelled Jefferson and his followers. It is too bad the modern Democrats aren’t using the 19th century Democrat playbook, from the likes of Jefferson to Cleveland, when the Democrats were better libertarians than today’s libertarians, as cited in THE CHANGING FACE OF DEMOCRATS on Amazon and http://www.claysamerica.com. 20th century Democrats have adopted Rousseau to Marx and expelled Jefferson and his followers.

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]]> By: Posts about Politico as of October 23, 2009 » The Daily Parrhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2009/10/obamas-alinskyite-tactics-are-making-some-democrats-nervous/comment-page-1/#comment-12595 Posts about Politico as of October 23, 2009 » The Daily Parr Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:49:27 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=11807#comment-12595 [...] times through tyrannical means, to regain control of all avenues of thought and communication. Obama’s Alinskyite tactics are making some democrats nervous – lonelyconservative.com 10/23/2009 The brass knuckle tactics Team Obama uses against their [...] [...] times through tyrannical means, to regain control of all avenues of thought and communication. Obama’s Alinskyite tactics are making some democrats nervous – lonelyconservative.com 10/23/2009 The brass knuckle tactics Team Obama uses against their [...]

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