Comments on: Birther Tension at Tea Party Convention http://lonelyconservative.com/2010/02/birther-tension-at-tea-party-convention/ Observations from a conservative in a blue state. With a little help from my friends! Sat, 26 May 2012 22:36:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: forsetihttp://lonelyconservative.com/2010/02/birther-tension-at-tea-party-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-15434 forseti Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:31:08 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=16208#comment-15434 The Birthers are not the issue. The issue is the U.S. Constitution. The first paragraph of the United States Supreme Court's website makes the following promise to the American People - “As the final arbiter of the law, the Court is charged with ensuring the American people the promise of equal justice under law and, thereby, also functions as guardian and interpreter of the Constitution.” To date, the United States Supreme Court has failed to do anything in furtherance of the search for the truth about Obama's natural born citizen status. Furthermore, not one single solitary person or agency in the Executive, Legislative, or the rest of the Judicial branch of government has done anything other than accept Obama’s posted Certification of Live Birth as conclusive evidence of his alleged birthplace. Mr. Obama claims that he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. As his only evidence that he meets the Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that a President be a natural born citizen, he produced a scant summary document called a “Certification of Live Birth,” which he posted on his website under the title: “Barack Obama’s Official Birth Certificate.” At first blush, it is case closed. A closer examination of the facts, however, reveals that Mr. Obama failed to point out on his website that his posted “Official Birth Certificate,” as he called it, is actually a 2007 computer-generated, laser-printed scant summary document of his 1961 vital record(s) on file with the Hawaii State Department of Health. What we do not know, however, is what 1961 vital record the Certification of Live Birth is summarizing. In 1961 there were at least six different procedures available to obtain a vital record (birth certificate) that the Certification of Live Birth could be summarizing. Five of the six procedures lacked adequate indicia of reliability and trustworthiness because they were fraught with the potential for fraud. That said, an “official” state-issued document that summarizes a document that lacks adequate indicia of reliability and trustworthiness is not worth the paper it is printed on. Scans of the original Hawaii Revised Laws from that era can be found at http://birther.com. I'll close this post with a quote: "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." The Birthers are not the issue. The issue is the U.S. Constitution. The first paragraph of the United States Supreme Court’s website makes the following promise to the American People – “As the final arbiter of the law, the Court is charged with ensuring the American people the promise of equal justice under law and, thereby, also functions as guardian and interpreter of the Constitution.” To date, the United States Supreme Court has failed to do anything in furtherance of the search for the truth about Obama’s natural born citizen status. Furthermore, not one single solitary person or agency in the Executive, Legislative, or the rest of the Judicial branch of government has done anything other than accept Obama’s posted Certification of Live Birth as conclusive evidence of his alleged birthplace.

Mr. Obama claims that he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. As his only evidence that he meets the Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that a President be a natural born citizen, he produced a scant summary document called a “Certification of Live Birth,” which he posted on his website under the title: “Barack Obama’s Official Birth Certificate.”

At first blush, it is case closed. A closer examination of the facts, however, reveals that Mr. Obama failed to point out on his website that his posted “Official Birth Certificate,” as he called it, is actually a 2007 computer-generated, laser-printed scant summary document of his 1961 vital record(s) on file with the Hawaii State Department of Health. What we do not know, however, is what 1961 vital record the Certification of Live Birth is summarizing.

In 1961 there were at least six different procedures available to obtain a vital record (birth certificate) that the Certification of Live Birth could be summarizing. Five of the six procedures lacked adequate indicia of reliability and trustworthiness because they were fraught with the potential for fraud. That said, an “official” state-issued document that summarizes a document that lacks adequate indicia of reliability and trustworthiness is not worth the paper it is printed on. Scans of the original Hawaii Revised Laws from that era can be found at http://birther.com.

I’ll close this post with a quote: “All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

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]]> By: Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup » Pirate's Covehttp://lonelyconservative.com/2010/02/birther-tension-at-tea-party-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-15428 Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup » Pirate's Cove Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:26:38 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=16208#comment-15428 [...] The Lonely Conservative points out that it is way past time to move on from the Obama birth certificate issue [...] [...] The Lonely Conservative points out that it is way past time to move on from the Obama birth certificate issue [...]

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]]> By: michiganhttp://lonelyconservative.com/2010/02/birther-tension-at-tea-party-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-15420 michigan Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:33:37 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=16208#comment-15420 Yes, an issue during the last campaign, but aside from the ongoing, there will be a formal next, where these questions will be asked much, much louder and pointed, by a far broader and attentive voting populous. I only hope that enough of us are paying attention to important details that really count. Yes, an issue during the last campaign, but aside from the ongoing, there will be a formal next, where these questions will be asked much, much louder and pointed, by a far broader and attentive voting populous. I only hope that enough of us are paying attention to important details that really count.

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]]> By: Lonely Conservativehttp://lonelyconservative.com/2010/02/birther-tension-at-tea-party-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-15417 Lonely Conservative Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:57:39 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=16208#comment-15417 Frankly, I'd like to see more of of his past that James mentioned. Where are all of his college and law school papers? Harvard Law Review? Who financed his education. But like Breitbart pointed out, this was more of an issue during the campaign. Frankly, I’d like to see more of of his past that James mentioned. Where are all of his college and law school papers? Harvard Law Review? Who financed his education. But like Breitbart pointed out, this was more of an issue during the campaign.

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]]> By: James Shotthttp://lonelyconservative.com/2010/02/birther-tension-at-tea-party-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-15416 James Shott Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:46:16 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=16208#comment-15416 What makes this a losing proposition is that there is insufficient interest in the issue to force Obama to show his long-form birth certificate. Remember that there is a steamer trunk's worth of other materials from his past that are also off limits to the American people. What greater travesty can there be in presidential politics than to have elected someone who is ineligible to hold the office, and to have punted rather than ascertain that eligibility? And, could a President Biden be worse for the nation than President Obama? I don't think so. From a practical point of view, the birth certificate issue is a waste of time, but that doesn't mean it isn't important. What makes this a losing proposition is that there is insufficient interest in the issue to force Obama to show his long-form birth certificate. Remember that there is a steamer trunk’s worth of other materials from his past that are also off limits to the American people.

What greater travesty can there be in presidential politics than to have elected someone who is ineligible to hold the office, and to have punted rather than ascertain that eligibility?

And, could a President Biden be worse for the nation than President Obama? I don’t think so.

From a practical point of view, the birth certificate issue is a waste of time, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t important.

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]]> By: Ann Whttp://lonelyconservative.com/2010/02/birther-tension-at-tea-party-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-15414 Ann W Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:08:40 +0000 http://www.lonelyconservative.com/?p=16208#comment-15414 BC or not.. I want to know what in that Hawaiian vault could possibly be worth 7 attorneys and $1.7 MILLION to keep from the public? BC or not.. I want to know what in that Hawaiian vault could possibly be worth 7 attorneys and $1.7 MILLION to keep from the public?

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