I think the government needs to do everything within its power to stop terrorists from blowing things up and killing Americans. But I’m not sure giving the government the right to detain American citizens indefinitely without trial is the best idea. According to CBS News, President Obama vows not to use that power, yet he’s dropped his veto threat of this new provision.
The Guardian has more details:
Barack Obama has abandoned a commitment to veto a new security law that allows the military to indefinitely detain without trial American terrorism suspects arrested on US soil who could then be shipped to Guantánamo Bay.
Human rights groups accused the president of deserting his principles and disregarding the long-established principle that the military is not used in domestic policing. The legislation has also been strongly criticised by libertarians on the right angered at the stripping of individual rights for the duration of “a war that appears to have no end”.
The law, contained in the defence authorisation bill that funds the US military, effectively extends the battlefield in the “war on terror” to the US and applies the established principle that combatants in any war are subject to military detention.
The legislation’s supporters in Congress say it simply codifies existing practice, such as the indefinite detention of alleged terrorists at Guantánamo Bay. But the law’s critics describe it as a draconian piece of legislation that extends the reach of detention without trial to include US citizens arrested in their own country. (Read More)

I’ll have to look at closer at the legislation to decide pro or con. But I have to say ‘extends the battlefield in the “war on terror”’ is nothing but a recognition of reality. Stealth Jihadis aren’t your run of the mill jay-walkers.
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Look for what?
Government has been stripping us of liberties since their inception. There has never been a man made government that has not used its power to make damned sure it’s people toe the mark. We have a government that doesn’t follow it’s own laws, that is steadily militarizing it’s police forces, that treats you like criminals at airports,train stations, and sets up road blocks for what ever reason it deems necessary. All in the name of safety and security.
What do you need to look closer at?
How much more liberty do you need to lose?
LIBERTY
1: the quality or state of being free: a : the power to do as one pleases b : freedom from physical restraint c : freedom from arbitrary or despotic control d : the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges e : the power of choice
AT;
1—used as a function word to indicate presence or occurrence in, on, or near
STAKE
1: a pointed piece of wood or other material driven or to be driven into the ground as a marker or support (supposedly immovable)
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You should have stopped at the first sentence. The rest is an idealist’s empty rant.
The answer to your question – entirely contained in the first sentence – is: the language of the bill. To ensure it helps get the bad guys (domestic jihadis) without trampling everybody else’s liberties. Because the bad guys seek to remove the most basic liberty of all: life.
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If you disagree with Obi-One, you might be a terrorist.
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I don’t like this at all. It leaves a wide interpretation on what constitutes a terrorist. Are the citizens who have the right to change or abolish the goverment according to the constitution concidered a terrorist then?
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This is not what America represents, a “legal”, unending suspension of habeas. What in the world are these lawmakers thinking in voting for such a time bomb?
Obama promised to shut Gitmo not to ignore his own pledge and then expand it to intern American citizens, but Dear Leader knows that this is a prize for any current or future progressive regime to trigger as the progressives are the only ones that will use it under the guise of national security for dogmatic political ends. Progressive President FDR, (Newt’s fav Prez) thrust upon the nation internment camps for American citizens that lost everything while imprisoned because they were immigrants from another country and or race without reparations.
Men have now created laws that have made us a country of men. Mocking the Tea Partiers now is at your own peril.
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I would be remiss if I didn’t point out to you that it will take a signature of The President to bring this legislation into law. Let’s see… I believe Obama is a progressive, liberal, Democrat if memory serves me. I’m sure you probably think he won’t sign it though.
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This unconstitutional crap, together with a recent book on what Holder is up to, adds up to a rather ugly picture of what this country is becoming. I am getting sick and tired of the congress-idiots not reading what they vote on, or not giving a damn. More and more it points to a police state, as well as deliberate destruction of the economy.
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“I’m not sure giving the government the right to detain American citizens indefinitely without trial is the best idea.”
You’re not sure whether gutting the BILL OF RIGHTS is a good idea? Wow. Way to stand up for the Constitution.
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The first step to a dictatorship is established by such a piece of legislation. He must be taking his cues from Iran! Obama has advocated for a private police force as large as the military!
This sounds great if you support the president, but problematic if you choose to challenge the president!
What a nice way to deal with pesky conservatives!
Thanks Democrats!
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No worries, the Supreme Court will review for constitutional issues. It’s just politics as usual.
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