If any state is successful in seceding from the United States of America I will be one of the first to move there. If only California would secede and take its 55 Electoral College votes with it, and maybe New York, too, the rest of the states could remain in the union. As it is, citizens from almost 20 states have petitioned the White House for secession.
It’s believed a petition from Louisiana started the ball rolling, and citizens from more and more states have jumped on board. Consider, for example, the text of this petition asking for Texas to withdraw from the United States:
The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.
With the looming implementation of Obamacare a done deal, liberals haven’t hesitated to blame announcements of layoffs and hiring freezes on rich, angry right-wingers having a post-election hissy fit. Oh, and racism. So it didn’t take long for the Left to lay into the Tea Party as sore losers.
…
Liberals would never stoop so low as to entertain leaving the country, would they? Many will remember the calls for blue states to secede after George W. Bush’s reelection, handily covered in this 2004 piece in Salon. (Fair warning: Do not drink hot liquids while reading it, or you’ll ruin your monitor when you get to the line, “Liberals have long opposed the growth of state power.”)


As a Texan I sometimes wish the state would secede and we could form a new republic. I then wake up and I know it won’t happen. Most politicians in this state are gutless, I know because they’re Republicans. The Democrats don’t want to go because they want to keep living on the federal government dole.
What I do want is the governors in all these states to start telling the feds what they can and can’t do. Texas has said they will not set up the exchanges for Obamacare and will try to make life hard for the feds to set up their own. If more of this happens maybe we’re back on the road to federalism
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
9
When Obama said that if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon, I found that disgusting coming from a sitting president regarding an ongoing court case. And when all the news stations continued to show little baby Trayvon’s angelic junior high picture for a week, when more current “gangsta” pics were available, that’s when I stopped watching TV. Blacks say that whites are racist, but then gave Romney a statistical 0 (ZERO) percent of their vote. Zero! True racists. True lowlifes.
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
8
This is a good sign. People are finally standing up to these beasts. We all thought we could do this at the ballot box, put it’s impossible to get a fair election in this country any longer. And, many of the reps we have in Congress will cave on us because their afraid of losing their *”…phoney, baloney jobs.”
*Mel Brooks – from “Blazing Saddles”
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
7
It’s time for a good ‘ol fashioned “Beat Down” for these slugs in Congress.
Like or Dislike:
2
You just might get your wish. In California, Governor Moonbeam, Jerry Brown, is talking like a neo-confederate. In that he argues that California can nullify federal laws. To wit, Moonbeam does want the feds bothering his now legal potheads.
I agree with Moonbeam that individual consumption of a drug, any drug, is a state and not federal issue. I disagree that the federal government can apply federal law in some states, but not others. If the feds can’t enforce marijuana laws in California, neither can they in New York.
Like or Dislike:
2
http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/11/white-house-receives-slew-of-secession-petitions/
Like or Dislike:
0
Will this be a reality once they grant all the illegal aliens amnesty? We shall see…
Like or Dislike:
1
Secession and the warfare that will come with it is the only option those that love freedom have left to them. If we fail to fight for the freedom like the founding fathers, the only thing the country has to look for is still the weakening of the USA. Study history, why did Rome fall? The fact that new peoples were allowed to become citizens without them becoming Roman(sound familiar) then the rot from within allowed the barbarins to destroy what is was, welcome to the Dark Ages
Like or Dislike:
3
Will Obama use NDAA To Arrest State Representatives and State Militias that support Secession?
Could Obama use NDAA To Arrest Secessionists on the Premise members are Militants and Belligerents that pose a threat to National Security?
Recently the Obama administration stated to Federal Judge Katherine Forest that under (NDAA) The National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 the President had authorization to lock up belligerents indefinitely. That they (were justified) to lock belligerents up indefinitely—because cases involving belligerents directly-aligned with militants against the good of America—warrants such punishment.) Pres. Obama could use NDAA provisions to order U.S. Military Forces to round up without evidence, millions of Americans including Secessionists and Militias by alleging they are belligerents or a threat to National Security. Many observers believe Obama intends to extend NDAA to imprison U.S. Citizens in Indefinite Detention not involved with or associated with enemy forces.
Hitler included similar provisions in his fascist (Discriminatory Decrees signed February 28, 1933). Almost immediately after the German Parliament passed Hitler’s laws, the Reich Government ordered the arrest of German Citizens and confiscated their guns without probable cause or evidence; delegated powers to German Police and other authorities to arrest anyone Nazi authorities claimed attempted or incited public unrest: arrested among others were outspoken Germans, writers, journalists, peaceful protestors and artists. After World War II the East German Secret Police (Stasi) used the threat of Indefinite Detention to forcibly recruit thousands of informants.
The U.S. 2012 NDAA legislation Obama signed 12-31-11 is similar to Hitler’s 1933 fascist laws the SS and Gestapo used to target persons in Germany for arrest, imprisonment and execution without probable cause; and confiscate millions of dollars of property. Hitler used his laws to suspend Parliament and the Supreme Court insuring his laws could not be rescinded.
During the Obama Administration’s recent request for a (stay) to stop U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest blocking enforcement of vague NDAA provisions, the Obama Administration—never clarified what constitutes a (belligerent); or militant; or what belligerent activities (directly aligned with a militant) to order a belligerent’s arrest or indefinite detention; or what is against the good of America. Under vague provisions of NDAA, the President could accuse anyone of being (directly aligned with militants by way of any political or other association; activity, statement, writing or communication with an individual or group government deemed (militant) to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans. Writers, journalists, Americans that disagree with or question U.S. Government or its allies—may under NDAA be subject to arrest and indefinite detention.
NDAA 2012, like Hitler’s 1933 Discriminatory Decrees enforces censorship; refers to the Patriot Act e.g. warrant-less searches of private property and forfeiture of property from persons not charged with crime. Provisions in NDAA 2012 keep the door open for corrupt U.S. police; government agents and provocateurs which there are many, to falsify reports and statements to target any American, group or organization for arrest, indefinite detention, complete disappearance; civil asset forfeiture of their property.
You may have noted NDAA referred to the USA Patriot Act. The Patriot Act lends itself to Government / police corruption; the Federal Government may use secret witnesses and informants to cause arrests and civil asset forfeiture of Americans’ property. Witness(s) and informants may be paid up to 50% of assets forfeited. Federal Government under 18USC may use a mere preponderance of civil evidence, little more than hearsay to Civilly Forfeit Private Property. Under the Patriot Act innocent property owners may be barred by government knowing the evidence federal government uses to forfeit their property.
Sections of NDAA 2012 are so broad, it appears U.S. Government or the President could (retroactively) deem an American’s past 1st Amendment activities prior to passage of 2012 NDAA—supported hostilities, terrorism or (Belligerents) to order the arrest and Indefinite Detention of any U.S. Citizen, writer, group or organization.
Under NDAA 2012 it should be expected that indefinitely detained U.S. Citizens not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings when interrogated, not allowed legal counsel or habeas corpus may be prosecuted for non-terrorist (ordinary crimes) because of their (alleged admissions) while held in Indefinite Detention.
Like or Dislike:
1
I honestly don’t think any secession would work because it would be in the best interests of corporations to keep the union together.
Considering the fact that they are using writing the legislation to protect themselves (congress is usually on the phone begging for money for the next election), they just won’t let this happen.
Like or Dislike:
0
Secession Petitions from 20 (now maybe 30 or more) States on the “We the People” White house website.
Here’s a list of states where residents have filed secession petitions in recent days: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming.
As of this morning, according to several independent reports the total signature count of the several states’ petitions has surpassed 500,000 signatures. I need to review each petition on the “We the People” website to verify this. However, while these petitions do not carry any legal weight or authority, it is interesting to see average citizens getting their voice heard.
The potential wild fire generated by this movement could cause great political conflagrations between the several states’ legislature and our Federal Government.
We live in interesting times.
-News Reports:
http://patriotupdate.com/32631/secession-petitions-from-20-states
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/11/white-house-website-deluged-with-secession-petitions-from-19-states/
http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/11/white-house-receives-slew-of-secession-petitions/
http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-secession-petitions-will-50-states-petition-the-president-to-secede
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/petition-to-secede-states_n_2120410.html?utm_hp_ref=dc
http://www.infowars.com/obama-reelection-spurs-wave-of-states-petitions-to-secede/
Like or Dislike:
0